Tuesday, November 07, 2006

The truth is no defence

Nick Griffin, the leader of the BNP and Mark Collett are currently being retried for inciting racial hatred. In light of the behaviour of muslims around the globe, albeit in some circumstances in a legitimate response to western imperialist aggression, it is ludicrous to be trying Nick Griffin for calling Islam 'a wicked and vicious faith'. Even the fact that this statement could be a simple acknowledgement of the truth is no defence! Apparently, by law, if the the truth is likely to incite hatred, then it is illegal to state it! What makes the trial all the more laughable is that Griffin was saying this in a private speech to his supporters, and telling them to respond throught the ballot box.

Links
BNP Website
Nick Griffins Blog (EDIT: discontinued till the end of the trial for legal reasons)
Interview with Nick
A very positive article by the Times online regarding the first day of the trial

21 Comments:

Blogger John1975 said...

Fuck Islam and the cowards behind this religion who bow down to extremists who use Islam as an excuse to murder, torture and rape!

Come and arrest me!!!!!

JOHN!

2:14 PM  
Blogger shieldwall said...

well said John,FUCK ISLAM,all the twats who think it is peaceful are going to get bitten in the arse by it,simple fact,KNOW YOUR ENEMY,WAKE UP BRITAIN!.

12:50 AM  
Blogger editor said...

I utterly agree and sympathise with Nick Griffin's case. Good luck to him.

I wish to comment on these outrageous comments though.

It is ridiculous to say "fuck Islam". Despite Islam being a backward religion that spread like a virus through Arabia and so forth, I think that using derogatory language without justification is a sign of ignorance.

Therefore, give legitimate criticisms and stop becoming the cliches that the media portray as extremists.

6:39 PM  
Blogger shieldwall said...

"OUTRAGEOUS",what I find outrageous is muslims calling for my Christian blood,calling for the downfall of our nation,supporting suicide attacks on innocent people,THATS OUTRAGEOUS,the press will always have ill percieved views on ANY person who shows nationalist or patriotic tendencies no matter what the language,so please,lets show some reality.I believe in fighting fire with fire,sometimes it is justified to hit back with interest!.

12:45 AM  
Blogger editor said...

The reality is that swearing does not help anything. It is not a legitimate criticism. It is a proclamation of hatred.

You make the press' job so much easier by those comments. Thus they can easily brush you off as another ignorant extremist.

I agree that Muslims are outrageous in their behaviour and views, but you should realise that you are stooping down to their level by making ingnorant remarks!

Use your common sense for the love of God!

4:24 PM  
Blogger John1975 said...

Fuck Islam!

What, editor, are you going to leave the confines of your comfort zone and risk your life to defend innocents from Islam wanting to take over the world?

I didn't think so!

You can take your "holier-than-thou" and well, you get the idea.

The point is I'm a free man and if I swear and talk bad about Islam, I shouldn't have to be afraid of crazy men and women wanting to kill me over this. Now that's ignorant!

You can not negotiate or reason with these guys editor! Kill them before they kill you.

John

4:46 PM  
Blogger editor said...

No, John. The doctrine of Christ is "Turn the other cheek".

Your reasoning is comkpatible with the Muslim jihad approach!!!!!

4:59 PM  
Blogger John1975 said...

Ok, you go ahead and turn the other cheek! In the mean time I'll be out here trying to protect your ass as well as your families!

I'd rather go to hell protecting those who can't do it for themselves.

Oh, and for the record, I do not beleive in the Christian bible either! The difference between this religion is the fact that it's not trying to rule the world through terrorism.

My religion is; love live, live honorable, treat others with kindness and respect as well as animals...love the land.

I'd actually like to be there with you as the good lord judged you and I side by side!

Oh, and don't take any of this personal...for I'm not!

John

6:04 PM  
Blogger editor said...

You are inventing your own religion which says a lot about your credibility and the fact that you are a cretin.

And for arguments sake, you are going against all of those principles by saying "fuck Islam".

Also, if you believe in the final judgement than you do beleive in that aspect of the Christian Bible

You are obviously a cretinous swine who contradicts himslelf.

Educate yourself before you ever type another blog, you ignoramus!

6:20 PM  
Blogger John1975 said...

You see, you took things personal!

You are the cretin for using your religion to judge others! What happened to your term, "turn the other cheek"?...I just made you go against this by your hate for me simply because of a few words. You haven't a clue to the real world beyond your comfort zone.

Thank "GOD" you remain behind closed doors instead of out here risking your life for a greater cause! You'd only get in our way!

I must say I got a good laugh out of all this. People of the "faith" are the most hypocritical animals on this globe!

You lost! Goodnight!

;-)

John!

7:32 PM  
Blogger editor said...

John,

I tried to reason with you in a civilised way to start with. Obviously this is something beyond your capacity as you are indeed, an ignoramus and a barbarian!

Firstly, "Turn the other cheek" is a not my term, (I don't invent religions like you) it is the term of Jesus Christ. I did not once say that I hated you. I called you a cretin to shake you up for you are delusional! You need guidance.

I am not using religion to judge you. I am highlighting your comments and showing to you how absurd they are!

Secondly, you do not know anything about me. So your assumptions about my "comfort zone" are like your other comments: Entirely baseless!

I, unlike you, work from within and with intelligence. You are a pawn of the extremists who will die when the time is wrong. Indeed, in chess, the pawns go first. You will, without scruples, go forth and lose your life with no meaningful difference to a greater cause.

Moreover, I don't see how any of this is remotely funny. You believe that you are somehow enlightened by the fact that you "hate the system" and are "willing to die".(such ignorant, extremist cliches) Infact, you are merely a lamb to the slaughter. If you are so devoted, why don't you get off your backside and off the computer, march infront of a mosque and do your worst?...KNOW, HOWEVER, THAT You will not change anything as you are a completely unimportant, arrogant individual who needs serious lessons to cure you of your of your ignorant and psychotic nature! How do you think that you, a mere pawn, can combat the masterminds behind the New World Order?

When you crudely spit out your words of hatred against religion, it only proves what an ignoramus you really are. You are a secularist by definition but some of your principles derive from religion: love indeed.

When will you stop reading baseless internet garbage and start learning about religion before you make preposterous comments? You are the epitome of what Edwards said: “A little learning is a dangerous thing but a lot of ignorance is just as bad”.

You call ME hypocritical: You, on the other hand have contradicted yourself countless of times and this is indicative of your boorish and uncivilized manner.

Moreover, my good intention of trying to tame the uncivilized animal in you has been turned into, by you, as some sort of match/competition. This just goes to show how cantankerous, petty and childish you are. You are arguing to defend your stance but you do not realize that you are digging yourself a hole. You are blind with ignorance and arguing for the sake of argument- Its only natural for an ignorant person filled with testosterone.

I am not fond of muslims, but I will go as far to say that they are tenfold better than you, you tyrannical animal!

You are DAMN RIGHT I am taking this personally. I will not sit here and be told who or what I am by heartless swine who needs to learn about life before becoming involved in any area of politics.

Never will I fight alongside an ignoramus who is fighting for the sake of fighting.
You are no different to the suicide bombers. You are the same at heart with only one difference. The muslims believed in their cause and you believed in you cause. You are excited by your "enlightenment". You feel that you are addresed by the quotation "The happiest excitement in life is to be convinced that one is fighting for all one is worth on behalf of some clearly seen and deeply felt good." YOU COULD LEARN FROM Sun Tzu when he says "Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."

I would sooner die than see a secularist scum fight for my freedom based on his gratuitous hooliganism!

I do not like smiting you in this way, it is against my principles. But I am trying to help you. Some people need extreme things to happen before their hearts can change.

The difference between me and you is that your accusations of me are baseless, whereas my comments are simply an analysis of your demonstrated lack of schooling. Indeed, as Socrates said, “The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance.”

I will not indoctrinate you about Christianity, but at the same time I will not tolerate your incessant attacks on it. Trying to teach you about Christianity is like trying to persuade a born blind man that the sun exists.

I shall end this, however, with a light of optimism.

Firstly, Aldai Stevenson Jr. once remarked: “I believe in the forgiveness of sin and the redemption of ignorance.” I hope that this principle extends to you.

The second quotation comes from God and it applies to people like you:
“Father forgive them, for they know not what they do”.

On this note I finish my rebuttal of you, John (you who are not worthy of the name). It’ll be interesting to see if you respond in your traditional, baseless manner, OR whether, by God, you will take in what I have said.

There is still hope for all!

8:44 PM  
Blogger editor said...

Dear John,

In retrospect, my conscience has been burning and I would like to apologise for the offensive commentry that I put across to you.

Although I still stand by my principles, it is not in my nature to mercilessly force myself on someone like a ton of bricks.

Though we have our differences, YOU ARE NOT MY ENEMY.

Thus, I ask you to forgive me, for I have already forgiven you.

10:25 PM  
Blogger shieldwall said...

I fear that it is precisely by "turning the other cheek" that will ultimately lead,god forbid,to Christianitys downfall,what we need is good old fashioned "thunder from the pulpit",fight fire with fire,you do not see Imams preaching to their brothers about turning the other cheek,we need to toughen up!.

12:46 AM  
Blogger John1975 said...

Editor,

No worries mate;) I apologize too!

Shieldwall,

Right on! There is no reasoning or negotiating with these people. They will die for their cause of terror, murder and world dominance!

4:38 AM  
Blogger editor said...

Sheildwall,

Very interesting you should say that. On a later date, I will publish an article on Christianity, "Turn the other cheek" and the connotation on pacifism.

It is, however, my firm belief that Islam is NOT a threat. Yes it does have goals of European domination, but its not only the patriots they have to fight. Before that, the illuminati will not allow them to progress. Hence, when every drop of oil is squeezed from the middle-eastern lands, the muslims will eventually become extinct.

They are a problem, but not a significant one.

8:16 PM  
Blogger Nikola said...

I will have an entire post devoted to islam in the future. As for the issue about turning the other cheek in Christianity, and whether it is a weakness, Id direct ppl to a concise post ive already made on the subject: http://serbialives.blogspot.com/2006/10/enemies-pray-for-them-or-fight-them_28.html

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