Thursday, June 14, 2007

Chinese immigrants, Iraqi, Afghani refugees building homes in Serbia

"Let's not forget what the origin of the problem is. There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That's a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states."
Gen. Wesley Clark, USA Supreme Commander, NATO mass-murderer
CNN, April 24-25, 1999

[The original news report is below my commentary]
Unless Serbia deals with its massive abortion problem (200,000 a year), the Serbian youth begin to show an inclination towards marriage and family, and we ban immigration, Serbs will be a minority in their own country by 2050.
There are a couple of things to note from the following article. But just to provide a background, the Serb population in Serbia numbers around 7m. Of these, more than 450,000 are Serb refugees from Bosnia, Krajina, and Kosovo. Now first off, why is a country with so many refugees of its own, and which had what remained of its dilapidated communist infrastructure decimated in 1999, being forced to take refugees from Afghanistan and Iraq? The UN claims that they are in transit, waiting for transfer to a third country. But Serbia should not be used as a transit point by an international body, especially one that has so spectacularly failed our nation already. Let those countries that created the mess in those countries in the first place take them, or let their fellow Arabs/Muslims take them. Many of them have been in Serbia for years, how long does this process take. Given the UN's track record I'm not optimistic it will be resolved any time soon. The other problem is that an individual motivated to flee their country for no other reason other than fear for their personal safety will stop in the first safe country that is reached. There is I think a statement that amounts to as much somewhere in the UN's charter. This is being flouted, and economic migrants have an incentive to break the law since the UN refuses to enforce their own principles. Once the 'asylum seeker' reaches their preferred destination, the host country is breaking international law if it chucks them out, even if the 'asylum seeker' should never have got that far.
The Key part of the article though, is the mention that 'Serbia does not have a law on asylum, so it transfers all refugees and asylum seekers to third countries, with the help of the U.N. refugee office'. Watch out in the future for this loophole to be closed. Right now no refugees have a right to settle in Serbia although in practice they seem to be staying indefinitely due either to the UN's incompetence or unwillingness to act. I anticipate that one reform which will be a non-negotiable (as if the current Serb government would even protest) pre-requisite will be one that institutes an immigration policy in keeping with that of our Euro-Atlantic 'allies'. That basically means, anyone that manages to cross the border illegally, simply has to utter the word 'asylum' and they can kick-start a complex legal process which no doubt lasts years, at a cost to the Serbian tax payer, and results in them being rewarded for breaking the law and violating our border.
There are tens of thousands of Chinese in Serbia, mostly in and around Belgrade. If you had to pick a non-European, non-Christian people to accommodate in limited numbers then I guess Chinese would be somewhere at the top of the list. They don't whine about discrimination every waking minute of the day as a means to obtaining privileges. They are hard working, respect authority, and stick to themselves. But while they have all this going for them, the issue is that though they might win the most-desirable-immigrant award, we have no need for any immigrants in any case. Given the demographic nightmare we face, it is absolutely suicidal to take in any new-comers. We let Albanian's cross our border with impunity, and now we have 2m of them.

Anyway here goes the original news story:

BELGRADE, Serbia-Montenegro, May 31, 2007 (IPS/GIN) -- Thousands of Chinese immigrants, as well as refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan, are building a home in Serbia.
The region may be viewed by some as intolerant and somewhat nationalistic due to its role in the wars of disintegration of former Yugoslavia, but many immigrants say they are finding a hospitable home here.
"Belgrade is my second home, for more than eight years now," said Liu Feng Dun, owner of a popular "New Hong Kong" restaurant. "I do go to China at least once a year, but this is where I have built my real life," he said, adding that his youngest son, born in Belgrade three years ago, was given a typical Serbian name, Marko. His elder son Hu goes to Serbian school.
"We have dozens of Chinese pupils here," a teacher from the Marko Oreskovic elementary school in the New Belgrade suburb of Block 70 said. She gave her name as Jelena only, and indicated two 7-year-old Chinese girls in the crowded schoolyard.
"This one is Jelena, like me, while the other one is Ana," she said. "These boys are Milos, Dragan and Nikola, typical Serbian names," she added laughing, pointing at a trio of Chinese boys playing football with their blonde Serbian friends.
Several thousand Chinese people live, work and send their children to local schools in Block 70.
New Belgrade is part of the country's capital, built on the banks of the Sava River during the communist era when a skyline of high-rises was considered a beautiful sign of progress.
Block 70 used to house a large shopping mall, which was built almost 20 years ago, before the wars that tore former Yugoslavia apart. But the mall never flourished because strict international sanctions -- which were imposed against Belgrade due to its role in the 1990s wars -- brought the country's economy to a standstill.
Thousands of Chinese immigrants began arriving a decade ago and have since turned the gloomy place into a colorful neighborhood. Cheap imported Chinese goods helped impoverished Serbs afford decent clothes and household items, while the new Asian neighbors found the environment receptive to their businesses and ambitions. Most of the inhabitants of Block 70 are Chinese now. Chinese restaurants in the neighborhood are becoming a favorite spot for many long-time Belgradians, as well.
"Officially, there are at least 4,000 Chinese [people] living here in the Block," Jing Dong Rong, head of the Association of Chinese Importers, told the Belgrade media recently. He was addressing the Serbian public after an incident in March, when a mentally disturbed Chinese man stabbed several young men with a knife in central Belgrade. The victims survived and the perpetrator was sent to a mental health institution.
"Nothing bad has ever happened to the Chinese in Belgrade; Serbia is the country where our community has least problems," he said.
The Chinese community was recently granted authorization to build and operate a Baptist Christian Church in another neighborhood of Belgrade, Ledine. Serbs are, by tradition, Orthodox Christians in a country where other Christian denominations are almost nonexistent.
The Chinese community's Baptist Church was viewed as a curiosity and oddity in Ledine, but no one objected to its services. It is a simple two-storey building, with a large banner in Chinese characters.
"We are viewed with scepticism in China itself," said a 30-year-old Chinese man who gave his name as Nikola. "It's unusual to leave the teaching of Confucius and turn to Christianity in China. However, the new religion has helped us turn away from running after money. We have discovered love and psalms," he added.
In another part of New Belgrade, a group of Iraqi Kurdish families resides in barracks rented by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees. Having arrived in Serbia three years ago, they are awaiting transfer to a third country. Until recently, the barracks housed Afghani families fleeing the war in their country, as well.
Three children from one of the Kurdish families go to the local Laza Kostic elementary school. An 8-year-old girl named Zeinap, 11-year-old Muhammad and 9-year-old Hussein are among the school's best students. They speak perfect Serbian, play with other children and go to birthday parties and other family gatherings traditional among Serbs.
"I like three things here in Serbia: one is the rain, as it rarely ever rains where I come from. Second is that I can walk the streets in the middle of the night without any fear. The third is when a policeman addresses me, he starts with 'sorry, but.' Where I come from, policemen do not use the word 'sorry,'" their father said.
Serbia does not have a law on asylum, so it transfers all refugees and asylum seekers to third countries, with the help of the U.N. refugee office. "We have at least 50 new cases a year. It takes years to process them and find settlement in third countries," said Vesna Petkovic, a spokesperson for the U.N.'s refugee office in Belgrade. "As a rule, these people face no problems in their temporary environment, in Serbia. Some of them work in construction or other similar areas and are welcome by locals. Ordinary people here understand the hardships of others and are sympathetic with them."
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46 Comments:

Blogger MrSmith said...

Poor old Serbia. My sympathies, Nikola. I wonder what can be done?

11:37 AM  
Blogger Nikola said...

Well in my eyes the solutions are relatively straight forward and simple. The problem is how do you obtain the power to implement them, since the current politicians don't have a healthy vision for the future. On a personal level I am of course, for the time being at least, helpless in this regard. All I can do is to try and make people aware of the problems.

11:58 AM  
Anonymous Crvena zvezda said...

There are not 100,000 Chinese in Serbia. There's probably around 10,000. 100,000 was a lie by the current authorities during the campaign to get rid of Milosevic- they claimed the Chinese would vote for him. Also, most Chinese came to Serbia and from there to other countries -- like Romania (a Romanian I know in Bucharest told me that most Chinese in Bucharest came their from Serbia after 2000).

3:08 PM  
Blogger Nikola said...

What were the figures given by Milosevic? I can't find any. From what I recall he never disputed the generally accepted figure of 100,000. I may well be wrong, but I can't find any records or figures given by his government. The 2002 census doesn't list any Chinese, but lists over 100,000 people whose nationality is left blank. Though I'm not sure if non-citizens are even included in the census. No Chinese are listed in any demographic figures given by the present Serbian government. Wasn’t the uproar more about them being given citizenship (and subsequently voting rights) rather than their numbers? Though in hindsight it seems plausible that, as you say, his detractors put out disinformation.
Also a lot of Chinese are in transit, but a lot are there to stay. I've been to areas of Novi Beograd where they've taken over entire blocks. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least 10,000 just in that suburb.
I’m going to look into this in a bit more detail, and will amend the article to reflect accordingly.

2:05 PM  
Blogger Hellenian said...

Unfortunately, the situation in regards to abortion is just as bad, or even worse, in Greece. Although about 100,000 births occur in Greece every year, abortion claims the lives of 250,000 to 500,000 human beings a year by "traditional" means and an extra 200,000 or more through abortion pills and so-called "contraceptive". (Many don't know this but birth control pills are abortifacients since they can and do induce abortion. If the "contraceptive" pill fails to prevent conception, it prevents the fertilized egg from impanting itself into the uterus -- thereby causing a chemical abortion. Some statistics indicate that the chances for this occurring are between 4% -- for women who take the pill everyday -- and 8% -- for women who don't take the pill regularly.) An unknown amount of unborn Greeks are also killed through embryonic stem cell research and as a result of in-vitro fertilization (since this procedure fertilizes multiple eggs, even though only one is needed, and then destroys the extras or sends them to places where they will be destroyed in the name of embryonic stem cell research).

Here follows a list of articles about abortion and Greece/Cyprus:

[1] Highest Abortion Rate
[2] A Vital Issue For Hellenism: The Demographic Problem of Greece
[3] Greece Wins "Prestigious" Title of Highest Abortion Rate in the European Union
[4] Greece "dying", demographic study shows
[5] Infertility problems, high rate of abortions the focus of conference
[6] More Abortions Than Births in Greece
[7] Greece First In Abortions
[8] Estimated 250,000 Abortions Annually in Greece
[9] About 500 Thousand Abortions A Year in Greece
[10] One in 4 women rely on morning-after pill
[11] Baby bonus plan prompts rise in abortion
[12] Prime Minister Karamanlis Signs International Abortion Plan
[13] Fertility rate down 41 pct since 1980
[14] Ban on young smokers (Despite the title, the article mentions an increase in state-funded in-vitro fertilization procedures -- which translates into more embryos being destroyed or shipped to embryonic stem cell research slaughterhouses.)
[15] Greece's second stem cell bank to open in Thessaloniki

These extremely disturbing conditions are not peculiar to Serbia, Greece, and Cyprus. Even though Orthodox Canon Law is explicit on the fact that abortion is murder, such massive abortion rates are occurring in every traditionally Orthodox Christian country. It seems that Orthodox Christians have become the leaders in murdering their own children.

The only ethical solution is the complete criminalization of all forms of abortion. Abortion represents the greatest human rights violation and crime against humanity and should not be occurring in our nations. In fact, it shouldn't be occurring anywhere in the world.

10:00 PM  
Anonymous Crvena zvezda said...

100,000 like I said is an exagerration made by DOS in the 2000 election campaign. At most there were 40,000 Chinese who came at the time. But the thing is many of them left back to China after 2000, many of them left for other eastern european countries. Like I said I believe there are only 10,000 of them with 60% of them in Belgrade. At most there could only be 20,000 in Serbia.

Also. The claim of 2 million Albanians in our country is impossible. The number is certainly below 1.5 million due to the fact that close to 30% live abroad as "guest workers" in western Euirope and that many so-called "Albanians" are actually Slavic Muslims, Gorani, Gypsies or Turks who in previous communist and in the 1991 census were either experiencing Albanization or were barred from taking part in the census.

2:56 PM  
Blogger Nikola said...

Given the complete lack of information on the subject I'm ammending my statement in the original article that there are 100,000 Chinese in Serbia. 'Tens of thousands' would seem to be a more realistic estimate leaving more room for error.

8:40 PM  
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Serbia needs immigration because the native population are too lazy/arrogant/'russian-like' to make the country a success.

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